Larry Seyer Acoustic Drums Aircraft Hanger Mallet Drum Kit
The “Larry Seyer Acoustic Drums” library was originally released on the now extinct format “GigaStudio III”.
However, it was so far ahead of its time when it was released in 2007, that even today, few drum libraries have achieved what the library set out to do way back when.
I have sat on this drum library and not done anything with it (i.e. converted it to any other format) since TASCAM killed the GigaStudio format in 2008 shortly after we released it.
When I found Pianobook and downloaded some of the libraries, I was impressed with the dedication the members have in creating new sounds and libraries. It made me think… maybe I should package one of the drum-kits from my library and upload it to the website so others can enjoy at least one of the drum-kits while I decide what I’m going to do with the other 70 drum- kits I have sitting here.
So I spent today (May 16th, 2020) going through my old hard drives and converting one of the original GigaStudio drum-kits to various formats. I tried converting it to Kontakt 6 first, but it didn’t sound right to my ears after the conversion, so I abandoned the effort.
I also considered using Apple Logic’s ESX-24 format, but since Apple just killed that sampler, I decided I had better find a format that would be around for a while and was not limited to only OS-X.
Since SFZ is cross platform and sounded as close to the original sound the library produced, I chose that format for this kit.
Why did I choose this particular drum-kit?
There are over 70 drum-kits in the library with the potential to create many more using the drum components (i.e. Kicks, Snares, etc) I recorded with Pat Mastelotto.
But since many of the developers on PianoBook seem to be more of the ‘scoring to picture’ kind of artists, I decided on this kit as it works well for creating a ‘mood’ for picture. This kit was never meant to be used as a Rock & Roll kit to back up a band – it was always meant for scoring. So I chose the ‘Acoustic Drums Aircraft Mallet’ drum-kit.
How the original library came about:
Pat Mastelotto and I recorded the first drum sounds for this library in August of 1999. The world was a completely different place then. Thousands of hours went into the recording, editing, and programming, listening, tweaking, and loving this library since.
The emphasis was on creating the most realistic sounding drums possible. Each drum kit starts out as a collection of individual drum components. Each drum component has been recorded in 24bit stereo using up to 6 microphones.
After selecting and tuning the individual drum components for a particular kit, the entire kit is then placed in a virtual ‘room’ optimized for that particular drum kit.
Microphone colors were then added to affect the overall timbre of the kit.
How the library was designed:
Each type of drum, with its respective positional ‘Zones’ (see picture) and alternate striking methods, was assigned a unique region on the keyboard. For instance, in the EX layout a snare drum’s strikes are mapped from E2 to E3 which correspond to the various physical positions at which Pat struck his actual snare drums.
Similar to the snare mapping described above, all of Pat’s drums except for crash, bell, and splash cymbals were sampled with positional information which is preserved in the final instrument design.
NOTE: In general, the EX layout assigns drums mapped to the piano keyboard WHITE keys, while cymbals and hats are mapped to the piano keyboard BLACK keys. However, The GM Layout follows the standard General MIDI drum layout.
In addition to positional ‘Zones’, there are multiple velocities and various striker choices.
When appropriate, the ‘round robin’ mapping feature is employed to avoid sample redundancy
during rapid playing.
Here is a YouTube video featuring this kit and how it sounds:
It was originally marketed as “PowerKits” which is why you see the logo in the video. But it is NOT being marketing currently.
The rest of the library is NOT currently available. Perhaps SpitFire might be interested at some point? I own all the rights to the recordings and the libraries.
You can read more about the ‘making of’ the library here:
Here is the original promotional video when it was released on the GigaStudio III format:
Leave a review to let others know what you thought of the instrument!
Can confirm it is unusable
The Larry Seyer Bass was and still is a terrific VI bass so naturally a new drum library by Larry (recorded two decades ago) sounded like a solid proposition.
First thing I noticed, the samples came duplicated for the different sampler mappings. This underlines how terribly impractically put together this is, save for the attention to quality and advanced sampling techniques – not that those matter because everything is swathed in reverb masking any individual character or detail in the samples. Someone said the reverb tail takes 5-7 seconds to fade – no exaggeration there. Sure, you could try a transient shaper to fix the reverb issue but if you’ve ever tried to remove reverb from samples you know how unnatural that sounds.
Besides the reverb issue, the snare sounds more like a tom.
I can’t think of any reason to recommend this. There is no unique sound here – you could take practically any acoustic drum kit and set the wetness to 50 and you would have “the sound” on display here.
Too much room.
The Samples do sound very good, if only they were Dry with a 5 second reverb, they are almost useless.
nice idea, but fixed reverb
with the fixed reverb on the samples, i cannot think of any song i could use it for
Almost perfect drums
This was indeed a unique drum library, with things that other drum libraries didn´t have (and still don´t). For a start, the drum selection was very good, and the tuning and dumping of the snares and toms was very well made, with very good taste and “know how”. Next, the playing was superb, and that also affects the sound. Next, the programing: I´m a drummer myself, and I do find a big difference in the sound of the different zones of the strikes on the snare! Having that detail (and others) sets this drum library apart from others.
It was all made with much heart and dedication, and it shows. It isn´t possible to get results like this anywhere else.
Is it perfect? Sadly, no. I suspect the sound of the mics weren´t recorded separately, so it isn´t possible to remaster the library with separate mic bleed channels, which is a pity. We are stuck with the sound of the room where the drums were recorded, which can be suitable, or not. Also, the number of samples in the rods sounds is reduced. And the brush sounds were never released, because it was too much work at the time.
I found that the convolution reverb giga impulses were great fun, but for me it was only a toy. What I really wanted was the beautiful sound of those drums, and I still recommend them for some productions, but not all, because of the limitations I described above.
I repeat: you won´t get this sound anywhere else!