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    AvatarRon_K
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    Hello everyone!
    Thank you all for so many great sounds and libraries! I am in TOTAL awe and I have learned so much about sampling sound from this site!
    I actually own Kontakt (FULL) but, I am NOT a fan of using it because it has an invisible pay wall in order to participate when using and promoting free content.
    As an ‘alternative’ I have picked using TX16Wx (free version) when creating my own samples. This is in both production and actual use. No, it is not the ‘cleanest’ interface or the simplest design. I admit that, up-front.
    However, the MAJORITY of samples on this site can be performed in the free version of this tool.
    Honestly, with a skilled creator, the TOTALITY of this vast library could be created with the commercial version (99$ total). Really, the ONLY thing missing is the round robins and some scripting features. Oh yeah, you can’t make ‘cool’ interfaces… fine.
    I am wondering if I make submissions using TX16Wx Free (or even the commercial version), will they be accepted and available to the public? Again, just asking because, to me, this is a far more available and distributed tool than any of the ‘text-doc based’ alternate options available now. I may be alone in this concept. I am good with that.
    Thanks for reading and I hope your samples all end up in Spitfire’s Labs eventually! I mean that! So many talented and creative composers out there have created a GRAND library… I just don’t want it to be ‘closed off’…

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    AvatarTim Clayton
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    I would love to hear any answers to Ron’s question. I have a load of organ samples and I am learning to use TX16Wx in Reaper to make an instrument. I would love to share it when it is done if that is possible.

    Kontakt is outside my price range and the paid version of TX16Wx is only 39 euros and does so much.

    #810456
    AvatarSid
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    I must have tried TX16Wx three or four times in the past, and found it buggy. I just had a go with the latest version, and it seems pretty stable. It can import but not export SFZ files.
    As for my take on publishing in the TX16Wx XML format, here are my thoughts:
    The format seems fine, and well documented though dense. It looks like:

    
          <tx:region tx:mode="DFD" tx:attenuation="0 dB" tx:pan="0%" tx:wave="93" tx:root="B4" tx:fine="0">
             <tx:bounds tx:high-vel="127" tx:low-key="A#4" tx:low-vel="0" tx:high-key="B4"/>
          </tx:region>
    

    Ron_K mentioned that it does not have round-robins. It has them, but only in the pro version. Both SFZ and Decent Sampler (DS) support round-robins and random-robins in the free versions (the random-robin implementation is complicated in SFZ).

    Ron_K mentioned it is a far more available and distributed tool. I’m not sure what is meant by that, as Sforzando (the main sfz player) and DS are free and also run on Windows and Mac. Looks like TX16Wx has been around since 2012, Sforzando since 2009 but the (SFZ format is older [before 2005]), DS I think is new this year.

    Ron_K seems to feel negatively about text-doc based sample formats, but TX16Wx is also text based (XML). TX16Wx does have a useable graphical front end built into the vst that saves to XML. for SFZ there is a graphical program called SFZ designer, as well as Polyphone, although the latter requires importing and exporting to SFZ. For finding good loop points, there is the program Endless-Wave that runs on Mac and Windows. Polyphone also has a loop suggester, but I find Endless-Wave to be better. DS is XML based but there is no Graphical Editor. My personal preference is for text, as I find it faster, but everyone has a preference.

    Final thoughts: There is an old joke about a computer programmer upset that there are 14 different standards for a particular process. He vows to make the one standard that everyone will use. One year later, there are now 15 standards… I find a lack of round-robins to be a pretty big negative, and it was clearly left out of the free version to push people toward the paid versions. Sforzando leaves out the ability to create a pretty UI unless you contact the developer and either pay or are granted a free waiver (up to them). while DS allows both. So while I don’t see a need for yet another format for Pianobook, with so many already (Kontakt5, Kontakt6, EXS, SFZ, DS [newly added I believe] and even one in Sequential Prophet X format) what’s one more?

    #1445883
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    For the record: TX16Wx free can play back round-robin (and any other instrument feature) in loaded programs. The pro version is only required for editing/creating such materials. And import of SFZ or any other format that contains RR will preserve and them play back regardless of free or paid version.

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