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23 June 2021 at 6:42 am #1797
Given the new rules regarding Pianobook demos, I have some sad news about the future of the demos I submit to the libraries:
My demos will no longer be featured on every new Pianobook library release. Also, as a result, some Pianobook libraries will not have any SoundCloud demos on the Pianobook Soundcloud page.
So…what’s the good news?
In addition to the Pianodrop YouTube features that the new libraries will receive, I will continue to work on demos for the new libraries (as my schedule allows, of course).
For those interested, you can listen to all of my demos on my Soundcloud playlists (2 playlists so far because there is a limit of 499 songs per SoundCloud playlist…I’m probably one of the few people that’s found that limit though. LOL).
Here’s the first playlist: https://soundcloud.com/da-fingaz/sets/da-fingaz-pianobook-demos
Here’s the 2nd playlist: https://soundcloud.com/da-fingaz/sets/da-fingaz-pianobook-demos-2
To all Pianobook library creators: Thank you for these incredible instruments…and best of all…23 June 2021 at 8:17 am #3260wordsSHIFTmindsParticipant
I for one have genuinely appreciated all of your demos – especially for the latest instruments, before any other demos have been linked to. At such times there are only two ways to find out what an instrument sounds like:
1) Download it yourself and try it out (bandwidth and HDD space-hungry, time-consuming and occasionally counter-productive);
2) Go and watch the pianodrop in which the instrument is featured and try to glean as much as possible about its potential in the few seconds that it’s being demonstrated there.
This links to a forum post I’m about to write, entitled ‘Wishlist for the new pianobook site/food for thought’.
Only being allowed to submit one demo per week is challenging for me, too; I feel like I’m going cold turkey because it means I’m now posting more than a week behind the latest additions. Quite often it’s only the pianobook demos that are played on my Soundcloud page and I find it frustrating having this audience reduced to a minimum. However, I fully understand the reasons for the new guidelines and it would therefore be wrong for me to complain about the changes.
Thank you, Da Fingaz, for all of your contributions to pianobook to date. Long may they continue.
(wordsSHIFTminds)23 June 2021 at 8:43 am #3261
Thanks for the kind words. I’d be interested in seeing your wishlist for pianobook. Feel free to share that with me (can we tag people on posts here?) when you have it posted up.
The pianobook demos have also brought me a great audience on SoundCloud (up from about a couple hundred listens a week to over 30,000 listens a week). That has dropped to about 10,000 a week (still a decent amount).
Yeah, and it’s really hard to complain about any changes they decide to make. Even if they decide to shut down completely and delete all traces of Pianobook from the internet, the platform has set a precedent for crowdsourcing libraries.
Thank you again! Looking forward to learning more about your vision for Pianobook.
Enjoy the rest of the week!23 June 2021 at 7:02 pm #3265wordsSHIFTmindsParticipant
My minimalist wishlist is here:
Since our conversation I’ve had an additional idea about volunteering to submit demos for the latest instruments to avoid the ‘zero demo’ problem you allude to above. Perhaps if both of us were to put our hands up to volunteer to make demos, and even be allocated the instrument in question by Simon or one of the others running the site, that might be considered to fall outside the standard guidelines? All the preceding assuming, of course, that the site users find our demos helpful. As I’ve already said, I’ve found your demos invaluable in past months.
The advantage for me of multiple instrument demos only being posted to a single, featured instrument page is that now I’ll probably focus on making recordings with fewer instruments. In the past I’ve chosen to make a balance of pianobook instruments in a) a full band setting and b) as showcased instruments where the chosen instrument is perhaps the only one on a demo, apart from drums/percussion and maybe bass. I still feel it’s important for the demos provided to offer a mix in this way because – for me as a composer and musician, at least – as well as wanting to hear an instrument upfront, I also want to hear it in context to find out how well it will sit within a complete mix.
I think I’m correct in saying, Marcus, that you’ve largely gone for the former with most of your demos – i.e. the chosen instrument featured, upfront, perhaps zooming in on one or two effects or sounds unique to that instrument.
Anyway, I have time and would be up for volunteering to supply regular demos, provided other pianobook users think it would be helpful.
Chris23 June 2021 at 8:06 pm #3266
Definitely good point about multiple demos. If I do demos that are more than just the instruments, I always offer the “contextual” and the “naked” versions so that both sides are covered.
Those will definitely be missed from the Pianobook Soundcloud page. You are correct with most of my demos only featuring the main sound or main library. There maybe just a handful that uses sounds from mixed library. Even then, I submitted each individual multitrack so it can be featured on just that library page.
Also, a lot of the demos I did were the default settings and sounds (maybe boosting the volume to a good level).
I’m not sure now if my demos would be helpful (if featured on a personal SoundCloud and not on the Pianobook page), so I may have to monitor the numbers over the next few weeks to see if it’s really helpful or not.
Heading over to your post now!
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